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csasun
August 23rd, 2009, 04:33 AM
For Mechanical Reliability, it is often said that L-S models are most appropriate in analysing esp. fatigue failures.
However, it is not clear as to how one can build the model for real life situation. Books like: Practical Reliability, O'Connor, Mechanical Reliability, ADSC Reliability Engineering Handbook, Keccicioglu etc. have given some basic fundamentals on the same. However, it is all 'focussing' on static analysis, or some level of simplified dynamic analysis.
But, in reality, as we all know, mechanical parts 'strength' deteriorates by time or usage; also, load spectrum too can change (esp. when we are talking about life targets of 10 years!) - this is so true esp. for developing countries like India.
In such scenario, how does one plan the modelling parameters of strength and Load distribution --> that can vary by number of occurence and time.
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avanti
September 6th, 2009, 04:15 PM
If you take a look at "Fatigue Design" by Carl Osgood (pun by Wiley) it shows techniques for derating strength levels. You can then use this derated strength level in a L-S analysis.
MIL-HDBK-5 contains derating factors for metals based on fatigue (S/N curves).
csasun
September 16th, 2009, 03:20 AM
If you take a look at "Fatigue Design" by Carl Osgood (pun by Wiley) it shows techniques for derating strength levels. You can then use this derated strength level in a L-S analysis.
MIL-HDBK-5 contains derating factors for metals based on fatigue (S/N curves).
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Thanks for that short but useful reply!
MIL-HDBK 5 is 'cancelled'.
However, for similar information, I felt, ASM handbook on 'Fracture & Fatigue' is more apporpriate and up to date.
On the other reference, Osgood is 'out of print'? `not available in stock' is the response I got.
Neverthless, I would like your comments on the following:
1. Derating - no doubt is good practical way of 'accounting' for dynamic behaviour - but still the analysis is 'static'.
2. These loads are typically 'sequence sensitive'. So simple derating may not be appropriate for assuming 'material strength properties'
3. These loads itself are not necessarily 'stationary' (or ergodic). Since over a period of say 5 years, the road conditions can change to worse. Therefore, the 'distribution' can get altered (mean shift) How do we account for this situation?
Therefore, both the distributions of load & strength are somewhat change over time. In such situation, how does one address the 'interference' modelling?
avanti
September 17th, 2009, 10:39 PM
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Thanks for that short but useful reply!
MIL-HDBK 5 is 'cancelled'.
However, for similar information, I felt, ASM handbook on 'Fracture & Fatigue' is more apporpriate and up to date.
On the other reference, Osgood is 'out of print'? `not available in stock' is the response I got.
Neverthless, I would like your comments on the following:
1. Derating - no doubt is good practical way of 'accounting' for dynamic behaviour - but still the analysis is 'static'.
2. These loads are typically 'sequence sensitive'. So simple derating may not be appropriate for assuming 'material strength properties'
3. These loads itself are not necessarily 'stationary' (or ergodic). Since over a period of say 5 years, the road conditions can change to worse. Therefore, the 'distribution' can get altered (mean shift) How do we account for this situation?
Therefore, both the distributions of load & strength are somewhat change over time. In such situation, how does one address the 'interference' modelling?
MIL-HDBK-5 was replaced by the FAAs Metalic Materials Properties Development and Standardization (MMPDS) Handbook in 2003. However it is still commonly used in the aerospace industry.
Osgood's book is available used from many online book sellers including http://www.biblio.com/search.php?author=osgood&format=&title=fatigue&keyisbn=
The price is a bargain compared to what I paid for it when it was in print.
It is also available through inter-library loans.
Dynamic loads are usually converted to equivilent static loads (at least in my experience in the aerospace industry). For example acceleration loads (from vibration) are converted into usable static loads using Miles equation http://femci.gsfc.nasa.gov/random/MilesEqn.html
If the loads change with time one either has to make an estimate or just update the analysis as loads change. In aircraft for example it may result in a reduction in its total allowable flight hours. In aerospace structures are often designed with a factor of safety of 1.5 which results in a very high reliability prediction.
In the end it is the testing that confirms the design integrity of a product.
csasun
September 25th, 2009, 04:57 AM
Thank you very much for that excellent 'web link'.
Some of my 'doubts' are definitely answered through 'Miles equation'.
I shall come back with more clarifications in a few days
Charlie
March 13th, 2010, 05:01 AM
Hello. very nice and interesting post. No body can deny the importance of reliability. Neither do i ...
avanti
March 17th, 2010, 10:50 AM
If you take a look at "Fatigue Design" by Carl Osgood (pun by Wiley) it shows techniques for derating strength levels. You can then use this derated strength level in a L-S analysis.
MIL-HDBK-5 contains derating factors for metals based on fatigue (S/N curves).
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This should have read (Published by Wiley)
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